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Sounds like the boat's rudder may have been found north of little squalicum. A group of us will be searching in that area. Call me at 510-0782 if you'd like more information.Hollie
Thats where I used to look for junk that washes up all the time -- the way the bay works brings everything right there -- thats where they have to be if thats where the rudder went. I want to come up tomorrow and help look.-- dave mosier (360) 224-9741
I found the rudder and a float cushion just below the cement factory, both within 150 yds. of each other. I went as far north as I could but nothing else and the tides coming in.People with boats I think we need to start focusing on the north bay and the northern Lummi and Portage(uninhabited). I'm not giving up on you guys. Anything I can do to help. ~Lincoln (360) 441-1712
It seems like they would have drifted to that same spot where you found those things given the current & tides were acting on them in the same way they were acting on those objects that washed up.. It infuriates me that the coast guard isn't assisting this search because they would be able to project where things would drift given the current & tide situation on thurs night & friday morning in a formulaic model of analysis -- at least thats what they are supposed to do! If the boys are NOT in the clarks point area that has been predominately searched -- and did not make it to the rocks one has to do this kind of projection that accounts for THE TIDE + THE CURRENT + THEIR SWIMMING DIRECTION. To me it seems like they have to either be there -- north west of the cement factory -- between where the drifftwood accumulates between little squallicum beach and where the nooksack dumps out. Or in an accumulation zone on lummi (god's beach)? Or swam somewhere and reached a shore and passed out somewhere? Or have been "taken" by aliens and transcended our dimension in space-time completely. (I'm thinkin -- like in the ending of 2001.)I know they are strong guys and i'm still keeping hope in check. thoughts & praise to everyone trying to find them (sans coast guard & police boneheads) -- dave mosier
Around 4:20 this afternoon,I just got back from walking the beach starting at Cliffside beach,going north for about a mile,hugging the drift wood. I checked all of the secret huts along the way,backtracked along the driftwood till Locust beach stairs. I had a beagle that smells everything running thru the driftwood and we found no evidence that anything washed ashore.
hey all, i have two boats to use. was out today and am looking for people to man them tomorrow. i tried to post a blog with this info., but i dont think i did it right. so,please pass it on my name is jeff myers 223-2327 looking for people to help man some boats on monday.
i am kind of in the dark about all of this...where did they capsize? has anyone found an opportunity to talk to the people who made it to shore? does anyone know who they are? i understand that the cops haven't been very helpful.i keep getting pieces of the story but am having trouble putting the together. e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org
can anyone get me in touch with pieter?
We need to keep in mind that drowning victims are often not bouyant for the first five days or so. Therefore following wind driven patterns and surface currents can lead us in the wrong direction. I think it might be beneficial to expand our search to as far out as Cypress.
To Dave Mosier and anyone else who wants to criticize the Coast Guard and police (and I understand Customs was out there looking also) -- From what I can tell from news reports, those guys were out there searching a huge area for many hours past survival time in water that cold. They do not search for bodies, though. They just don't have the resources to do it. To call any of these brave guys and gals boneheads is misplacing your anger. They would go out in any weather to find you or your friends if you got in trouble.
I will follow that up I guess and try to be more clear -- that comment has to do with the police & coast guard not releasing the names or contact info of the alleged people who made it ashore -- the discontinuation of the search without re-continuing anything within that critical 24 hour period -- an inability to provide information-sharing with friends & family continuing the search -- and what I see as their "resources" expiring a little early while dismissing these boys as merry pranksters without lifejackets to the press as a reason to legitimize discontinuing efforts etc. I think "boneheads" is pretty tame when one looks at this event as an example of the county's 911 operated search & rescue plan for a vessel capsizing at night with people in the water. I contemplate my words and mull them over before I post these things FYI -- and if it was that rich ex-congressman who lives on Clarks' point caught in troubled water -- they'd still be out looking I betcha. I have been talking to the man writing for the Herald and I have faith that he will be able to bring some pieces of this puzzle together in the next few days. Today has been a heartbreaking day of calling dear friends from college to tell them about this -- I can only hope and pray to hear some good news tomorrow!-- dave mosier
Dave, I understand your heart is in this search effort for your dear friends, but it's clear you are criticizing something you know very little about. First of all, the authorities are under no obligation to release the names of search and rescue case survivors, and I guarantee they were extensively inteviewed by skilled searchers during the very early stages of the SAR. After that, it is up to the survivors to come forward. The authorities did not stop searching until many, many hours after the survival time in such cold waters, with several crews out there in cold, rough weather risking their lives to find your friends. In cases like this, the Coast guard searches beaches, shorelines, and islands as well as the water. That is how they found the fourth survivor. Sadly, two of them were not found, but not due to "boneheads" not trying hard enough. For you to characterize them as dismissive is way off the mark, Dave. The CG and other agencies routinely risk their lives to rescue people, including your friends, from their own bad decisions; they don't think twice about how people came to be in distress. All that matters to them is bringing people home alive. I understand you're frustrated, but you can't blame the people looking if the guys just weren't there to be found.
Aimee: I have Pieter's information if you want it call me 3609278303. Jen- I've gathered from talking to the families they only interviewed one of the survivors and none at the actual scene within the most critical time period. They didn't even correctly identify their sexes because one of the guys has an androgynous name. And I completely agree that there should have been at least a better and more consistent relay of information to the families from the authorities which didn't do complete interviews and consistently gave the families inconsistent information.